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Convict Ship Mangles 1824

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Embarked: 190 men
Voyage: 106 days
Deaths: no
Surgeon's Journal: yes
Previous voyage: Almorah arrived 20 August 1824
Next voyage: Minerva arrived 19 November 1824
Captain John Coghill
Surgeon Superintendent John Crockett

The Mangles was built at Bengal in 1802. (5) This was the third of nine voyages of the Mangles bringing convicts to Australia. The next voyage of the Mangles was in 1826.

On 9th June, the eve of his departure on the Mangles, *Lieutenant-Colonel Henry Thornton of the 40th Regiment was amongst the Officers and Gentlemen presented at the King's Court and Levee. Soon afterwards he embarked on the Mangles to join other members of the 40th regiment including Lieutenant Molinaux Dalrymple, Regimental Surgeon William Jones and 57 rank and file of the 40th. The 40th had been serving in Ireland.

Following is an excerpt from  Historical Records of the 40th (2nd Somersetshire) Regiment By Raymond Henry Raymond Smythies listing the ships that brought detachments of the 40th regiment to New South Wales in 1823 and 1824..........

Early in March 1823, the commanding officer, Lieutenant-Colonel Thornton received an intimation that it was intended to send the regiment to New South Wales. In the meantime it was ordered to proceed to Dublin, thence by sea to Liverpool, and after that by road to Chatham, in order to form guards for convict ships when required.
The head quarters reached Dublin on 15th March and occupied the Royal Barracks. On the 30th the whole regiment embarked at Pigeon House, in eight small vessels, and reached Liverpool the following day.

A twenty eight days' march, including three Sundays, brought the regiment to Chatham. The Regiment marched in three divisions; the first arrived at Chatham on 21st April; the second, consisting of two companies, halted, and remained at Deptford; and the 3rd reached Chatham on 23rd April.

During the next year the 40th was sent out, in small detachments, as guards on board convict ships to Australia. This was after several years' rough service in Ireland, and but a short period of rest in England........

Embarkation Command Ship  
25th April 1823Lieutenant Lowe Albion  
5th July 1823 Captain Bishop Asia
10th July 1823 Lieutenant Millar Isabella  
18th July 1823 Captain Hibbert Sir Godfrey Wilestoe  
29 July 1823 Captain Thornhill Guildford  
31st July 1823 Lieutenant Ganning Medina  
5 August 1823 Lt.- Col. Balfour Castle Forbes  
29 December 1823 Captain Stewart Prince Regent  
5th February 1824 Captain Jebb Chapman  
25 February 1824 Captain Morow Countess of Harcourt  
14 June 1824 Lt.- Col Thornton Mangles  
14 June 1824 Lieut Neilley Princess Charlotte  

Other ships bringing detachments of the 40th regiment included the Minerva and Ann & Amelia.

The Mangles departed Portsmouth on 13th July 1824 with 190 male prisoners.

John Crockett kept a Medical Journal from 27 May 1824 to 1 November 1824.  His first patient on the Mangles was George Burcher who was treated while the ship still lay at Portsmouth. The following prisoners and soldiers are mentioned in the surgeon's journal:
10th July - Portsmouth - Richard Smith - Rash
17 July - At sea - James Wallis (soldier) - pain in chest and abdomen
20 July - At sea - John Jeffkins - Pneumonia
20 July - At sea - Thomas Dobyns - soldier - generally unwell
25 July - at sea - James Anderson - soldier -  headache and unwell
2 August - at sea - James Boon - urethritis
11 August - at sea -  James Baker
23 August - at sea - John Greenfield - soldier - cough
6 October - at sea - John Toms - accident - fractured femur sent to Sydney hospital on arrival. (6)

Many slight ailings and accidents did occur all of which were by timely interference arrested. I am happy to have it in my power to state that the whole of the prisoners entrusted to my charge are in a better state of health than when they were delivered to me. My general system of cleanliness and regulation which was most tenaciously enforced saved me infinite trouble in my medical duties as well which exercise both of mind and body could not fail to have the most desired effect. Through the whole of the passage nearly a fifth have been constantly employed at School and to which I most strictly attended myself daily. This has been a source of great pleasure and amusement to me particularly as it has been crowned with success. - signed John Crocket  (6)

On the 19th August 1824, five weeks after departure, Lieutenant Dalrymple submitted a long report to Colonel Thornton regarding a threatened mutiny by the convicts on the Mangles.......At 7pm on the 15th August a sentry had given the alarm that he had heard a noise as if the prisoners were rushing to the hatchway. The guard and crew were at once armed with muskets from a rack which had been built on the poop deck. Nothing came of the affair and Charles Bateson in The Convict Ships dismisses the attempted mutiny as one which perhaps existed only in the overwrought imagination of the sentry on duty that evening.

The Mangles with 199 prisoners landed at Sydney on 27th October 1824, a voyage of 106 days. (1).  There had been no deaths of convicts on the voyage out, however it was reported that two men (crew?) had been lost overboard.

The prisoners were disembarked on 1st November 1824. (2)

In November the Australian reported that the Mangles was about to commence loading for the return voyage to England. She was said to be larger than any ship that ever sailed from Port Jackson laden with colonial produce. Her burthen was not less than 600 tons. (3) Her accommodations were considered wonderfully superior to those of smaller ships and calculated to lessen materially the privations to passengers on the voyage. The Mangles, full of a cargo of wool and timber, sailed for London on 10th February 1825. Passengers included Judge Advocate John Wylde ; Charles McArthur, Dr. Crocket R. N., Lieut. Carr, Dr. Quid R. N., (?Charles Queade), Mr. Broadfoot, Mr Uther and Mrs Harvey. In sailing from Sydney the Mangles touched on the Sow and Pigs, but received no damage. After clearing the heads the winds suddenly abated, and she drifted very near the rocks under the Light house where she was forced to anchor. She was rescued from her dangerous situation by boats from two nearby Merchant vessels. (4)

Notes and Links:

1). Find out about bushranger Lawrence Cleary who arrived on the Mangles

2). Hunter Valley convicts / passengers arriving on the Mangles in 1824

3). Lieutenant Molineux Dalrymple joined the army on 24 December 1818 and was appointed Ensign 25 March 1819. He was appointed Captain in April 1827.

4). Voyages of the convict ship Mangles included those in 1820, 1822, 1824, 1826, 1828, 1833, 1835, 1837 and 1840

5). *Henry Thornton was a Lieutenant in the Scots Greys in 1796, became Captain in the 40th foot on 25 November of the same year, and Major on 2nd August 1802. On 4th June 1811, he received the brevet rank of lieutenant-colonel, and nine days later became Lieutenant-colonel in the regiment. He commanded the 1st battalion during some of its most arduous service in the Peninsula, and received the gold cross for Talavera, Nivlle, Orthez and Toulouse, in addition to the silver medal with seven clasps and a Companionship of the Bath, to which he was appointed on 4th January 1815. Being called as a witness at a general court martial in London on the return of the 40th from America early in 1815, he was not present at the battle of Waterloo, but rejoined the regiment shortly afterwards in France, and commanded it from that time until 1827 when he exchanged with Colonel Valiant into the 82nd Regiment. He retired the following year, and died at Camberwell aged 77 in April 1856 (Records of the 40th Regiment (2nd Somersetshire)

6). John Crockett was also employed as surgeon on the convict ship Prince of Orange 1822 (to VDL)

7). Lazarus Davey convict on the Mangles

8). Medical Journal of John Crocket - UK National Archives 

9).  Return of Convicts of the Mangles assigned between 1st January 1832 and 31st March 1832 (Sydney Gazette 14 June 1832; 28 June 1832).....
John Gouder (?Goodyer) Bricklayer assigned to Mary Raine at Parramatta
Thomas Munroe Errand boy assigned to William Sherwin at Parramatta

10).  NSW Courts Magistrates, Newcastle Police Court: 1823-1825, 1826-1827 (Ancestry) 6 November 1826......

Henry Cooper per ship Mangles, assigned to the surveying department charged with insubordinate and riotous conduct in striking a fellow prisoner and provoking him to a fight and disrespectful language to Mr. Lowe. Patrick Shea, states - About six weeks, Cooper, myself and others belonging to the surveying department were lying together on the ground talking, when Cooper struck me without any provocation on my part. I told him if he repeated the blow I should endeavour to defend myself. On my getting on my legs he ran at me and again struck me. I put myself in a posture of defence but Cooper being a much more powerful man I was knocked down and severely hurt; my arm was much injured in falling, so much so that I am unable to do any work at present I stripped to fight but not til I had been struck twice. I should have sooner preferred a complaint but Mr. (Henry) Dangar being absent at Sydney at the time, I waited his return. Michael Hollingsworth states - I was present about six weeks ago when a quarrel took place between Cooper and Shea. Some joking words had passed between them as we lay on the grass, when Cooper suddenly struck Shea and made his mouth bleed. Cooper then got on his legs and stripped. As soon as Shea had recovered himself he told Cooper if he again struck him he would stick a knife into him upon which Cooper ran at him and again struck him; I saw Shea knocked down; Shea was hurt in the arm in consequence of a blow from Cooper; they had one round but Shea was unable to stand against Cooper. Mr. Robert Lowe states - Previous to Mr. Dangar proceeding to Sydney, he ordered the people belonging to his surveying department to consider me as his representative, but as my absence was also expected for a few days, Cooper during that time was to be entrusted with the care of the provisions and baggage; soon after Mr. Dangar went I also was away for a short time. On my return a general complaint was made by the rest of the party against Cooper for riotous conduct, but which was denied by Cooper Feeling satisfied there were some grounds for the complaints against him I told him he should no longer have charge of the provisions and baggage, when he replied that he did not care, that he did not care a damn for what Mr. Dangar or myself could do to him. The prisoner denies having made use of Mr. Dangar's name; admits having spoken disrespectfully to Mr. Lowe; states that Shea gave him a great deal of provoking language and that on his threatening to stick him with a knife he was irritated and knocked him down a second time. Henry Cooper sentenced to 50 lashes for striking a fellow prisoner and provoking him to fight and 25 lashes for disrespectful language and insubordinate conduct towards Mr. Lowe


1. The Australian 28 October 1824

2. The Australian 4 November 1824

3. The Australian 18 November 1824

4. The Australian 17 February 1825

5. Bateson, Charles & Library of Australian History (1983). The convict ships, 1787-1868 (Australian ed). Library of Australian History, Sydney : pp.344-345,  384

 6. UK, Royal Navy Medical Journals, 1817-1857 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: Admiralty and predecessors: Office of the Director General of the Medical Department of the Navy and predecessors: Medical Journals (ADM 101, 804 bundles and volumes). Records of Medical and Prisoner of War Departments. Records of the Admiralty, Naval Forces, Royal Marines, Coastguard, and related bodies. The National Archives. Kew, Richmond, Surrey.




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